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Matthew 06:05-08 Jesus Makes a Poem about Prayer

In Matthew 06:05-08, Jesus makes a poem that uses four different wordplays that contrast the right way and the wrong way to pray. Jesus contrasts praying in the synagogue versus praying in secret. He contrasts the results for the way that hypocrites pray versus the result for praying correctly. He contrasts praying by multiplying words and not praying with a multitude of words. He contrasts what heretics think versus what the Father in Heaven knows.

In the wordplay concerning “Multiply Words,” the two words “Multiply” and “Words” form a pun. Given the similarity of the two words the sound produced is tantric in nature.

“Synagogues” (כנסיות)

“Secret” (בסתר)

“Already” (שכבר)

“Reward” (שכרם)

“Couch” (משכב)

“When” (כאשר)

“Multiply Words” (דברים תרבו)

“Multitude of Words” (דברים שברוב)

“Heretics who Think” (חושבים שהמינים)

“Father in Heaven” (שבשמים שאביכם)

Matthew 5:5 “And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues {“Synagogues” (כנסיות)} and on the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you, they have {“Already” (שכבר)} received their reward {“Reward” (שכרם)}. 6 But when you pray, go into your room {“Couch” (משכב)}, shut the door and pray to your Father, who is in secret {“Secret” (בסתר)}. And your Father, who sees in secret {“Secret” (בסתר)}, will reward you. 7 And when {“When” (כאשר)} you pray, do not use empty repetitions {“Multiply Words” (דברים תרבו)} as the Gentiles do. For they think {“Heretics who Think” (חושבים שהמינים)} that they will be heard for their many words {“Multitude of Words” (דברים שברוב)}. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father {“Father in Heaven” (שבשמים שאביכם)} knows what you need before you ask him.

J. Clontz – Editor of The Comprehensive New Testament

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Fairness and Fair-share

Talking to a friend who is a little bit of a socialist who felt that large corporations were greedy and taking advantage of the poor classes. She stated that the family breakdown was due to the economy and the economy enforces bad morals. She stated that the corporations might not make the same profit but could still stay afloat if they provided larger minimum wages, healthcare and other necessities without increasing the cost of their products. The loss or morality for her was with the CEOs and heads of large corporations who make billions and could chance to lose to increase minimum wage for workers without increasing the cost of their products. I suggested that the corporations will just raise the prices of their products and she believes that laws should be in place to restrict the raise of products.

Part of me thought this was a good idea and that those CEO’s should give up their share for their workers but the other was not so sure. I think I am becoming more jaded with how I see certain things but for one thing I notice the 7 deadly sins which are in play for workers and their bosses and also the problem with contentment. Call me jaded or pessimistic but I don’t think we were all meant for the same level of income and while the CEOs might have greed the workers could be envious. It does suck that a person might have to work two jobs but their life could definitely be better in terms of family and true love that overcomes the necessity of wants. I also just don’t think a fast food worker should have the same income level as a doctor.

This is a confusing topic to me because I don’t think CEO’s are greedy bad people while the workers are innocent bystanders of the capitalistic rule. I just see that both the CEO and workers can encompass greed and both can be envious. And I also don’t see something horribly wrong with different levels of income. At first thought it might be nice to be a wealthy CEO or even that we all could just have the same income level but we were not all made to be the same. And our lives were not made to be the same. And the time of “fair-share” economy has happened before and it never really works out.

I guess the bottom line for me is that income equality will probably never be alleviated because of humanity’s instinct to be greedy, envious, lustful, gluttonous, slothful etc. And I don’t think humanity was meant for fairness since if we were our societies would be equal in everything but they are not.

So this might be a weird question but what do you guys think about capitalism? Taxing the rich for fair-share of the economy? And CEO’s/ Business owners decreasing the gap between profit and worker’s compensation (i.e wages, healthcare)?

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The Gospel is for now, not just the past and future

Understanding the Gospel Gap

By Paul Tripp, CP Guest Columnist

July 28, 2013|11:05 am

I’m convinced that many Christians live with a big gap in their understanding of what God has done for them. Most people understand that Jesus died so their sins can be forgiven, and most people understand that He died so they can have a future with Him in eternity, but I’ve found that few understand what Jesus has provided for them today.

2 Peter 1:8-9 describes the Gospel Gap better than any other passage in Scripture:

“For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. For whoever lacks these qualities is so nearsighted that he is blind, having forgotten that he was cleansed from his former sins.”

In these verses we get the symptoms of the Gap. Peter points out that there are people who really do know the Lord, but whose lives fail to produce the expected fruit of faith. Their lives aren’t characterized by peaceful relationships, a natural day-by-day worship of the Lord, a wholesome relationship to material things, and ongoing spiritual growth.

You see, I’m persuaded that in the here and now, many of us experience a Gospel blindness. Our sight is dimmed by the tyranny of the urgent, by the siren call of success, by the seductive beauty of physical things, by our inability to admit our own problems, and by the casual relationships within the body of Christ that we mistakenly call “fellowship.”

Sadly, this blindness is often encouraged by preaching that fails to take the Gospel to the specific challenges people face. People need to see that the Gospel belongs in their workplace, their kitchen, their school, their bedroom, their backyard, and their van. They need to see the way the Gospel makes a connection between what they’re doing and what God is doing. They need to understand that their life stories are being lived out within God’s larger story so that they can learn to live each day with a Gospel mentality.

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Why do sinners and God-haters have such great lives?

I know a number of people, all of them Atheists and mockers of God who seem to lead such charmed lives. They are incredibly successful in their careers and seem to enjoy promotion after promotion. They are never ill, and they seem to enjoy and love every minute of life. I even know a ‘homosexual’ couple and both partners seem to be blessed when it comes to work. Both are earning high salaries. Nothing ever seems to go wrong for them.

On the other hand, I hear of Christians every day who appear to be cursed with bad fortune in nearly everything they try to do. They are unable to find work, other than menial jobs (but not through lack of experience or qualifications), are plagued by accidents and health problems and are frequently mocked for both their Christian belief and their political beliefs.

Why exactly is this? Is God testing us?

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D-9 question?

Hi, this is D-9, i have been blocked from worthy on my home IP address. I thought I was banned, but that doesn’t seem to be the case(?) I understand errors happen and if this is simply an error please unblock my home IP. It says I am not allowed to visit this community(?) and I cannot read posts or login. I am using my phone at a friend’s house now, and this is the only way I can contact Worthy right now, thank you. …read more

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Sunday 7/28/13 Pastor Michael sermon Left Behind: What Happens to No

Sunday 7/28/13 Pastor Michael sermon Left Behind: What Happens to Non-Believers during the Tribulation Revelation 6:9-11

We are living in a time that there are things happening in our world that have never happened before. The killing of thousands and weather that causes mass destruction is happening all over the world. Jesus said these things would be happening in the end times. For believers we have no worry. We are protected from ALL of the destructions that happen in the end times. We, the believer, escape. The world wants us to be fearful but we will not fear. The Bible prophesized of the things that are happening. The love of many will wax cold. Today people kill each other with no problem and without a second thought. Men become lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God!

We must celebrate our Faith because our Faith is our ticket out of the terrible times to come. Our Faith will protect us from disaster! Christ died for us and snatched us back from near destruction. In the text, John sees the things that are to happen. He sees the seven seals opened by the Lamb, Jesus Christ, the Resurrected one. John sees the raptured, the believing ones that are caught up. The dead in Christ shall rise first and we who remain shall be caught up to meet Jesus in the sky. These are the born again believers that are taken up and don’t have to go thru the tribulation period.

Right now there are approx. 7 billion people living on earth today. Approximately 1.6 billion of them are saved. Almost 6 billion people will be left behind if the Rapture would happen today. Those people left behind fall into three categories:

1) The Person Who is Uncertain:

This is a non-believer that doesn’t want to make a commitment. He is seeking some religious experience but will stay neutral. He doesn’t commit to anything. An Agnostic=denying God’s personal existence. They don’t believe God is a personal God. Nicodemus was an agnostic. He came to see Jesus at night when no one would see him.

We know Jesus is Real, God is Real! And we know that He has picked us up, woke us up this morning and brought us to church today! We have a relationship with God and He comes and rescues us from our mess! We cannot see it but we know that it is real. We know it thru our heart and not our intellect. We are born again believers and we have FAITH!! We know it’s REAL!!

2) The Unwilling People:

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Sunday 7/21/13 Pastor Michael sermon Seeing Is Believing=A Preview of

Sunday 7/21/13 Pastor Michael sermon Seeing Is Believing=A Preview of Coming Attractions! Revelations 5:1-5

Seeing is believing means some things are so impossible unless you can see them. This is the reason why we have pre-views of movies to come. They want to show us pre-views of coming attractions, of the movies thought to be impossible to capture on the screen.

This is the state of our text today. John is being given a pre-view of what the world will look like in the end times and how things will happen in Heaven and in earth. John is on the island and no one is there but him and God. God took him up in the spirit to show him reel by reel of what is to happen in the end time. John was shown things that he could not understand, but he believed. It is like our faith in God. We can’t see Him and sometimes we don’t understand things that happen but we know God is with us. He is lifting us up and we believe in God’s Power.

John was given a pre-view of what is going to happen so he can little by little believe it. He sees Christ exalted in Heaven. He sees the main character in Heaven, Christ, exalted in Heaven. This is before the seals on the Book are broken. God shows him Christ first because it was about to get really crazy and chaotic. But Christ is still on the throne. When things go crazy in our life, Jesus is still in control and He is still on the throne. Christ has Power! He will empower us to get over the crazy stuff because if it doesn’t kill us, it will empower us and make us stronger! I know that nothing touches us unless He allows it. So He knows I can handle it and can take it! We can have the victory over all things! Christ is on the throne! Praise the Lord!

Vs. 2 The Book is like a Will being opened to determine the fate of people, of mankind and the earth. It’s like at a Will reading. People are there to get a blessing. Jesus is at the Will reading, the Book opening. Christ is the executor of the Will, to unseal the Book. Vs.3 No one could open the Book. The strong angel asked who could open the Book. Angel Gabriel will proclaim that no one can open the Book, the Will. This Will, this Book says who will be getting into Heaven and who will not! Jesus Christ is the only one worthy to be the executor, the one to open up the Will, the Book! He is the only one worthy to break the seals on the Book that determine the will of God toward the fate of mankind, the earth.

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What Hinders Our Prayers and Our Relationship with God?

What scriptures mention things that could and will hinder the effectiveness of our prayers and relationship with God? I’m thinking right now of these three passages:

Isaiah 59:1-2 Behold, the Lord’s hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: but your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he cannot hear.

Psalm 24:3-5 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? Or who shall stand in his holy place? He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall recieve the blessing of the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honor unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

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Hello……Hello…..Hello….

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7/30/13

Miz KJV Only in the house!

I just joined this website because I like to type up my church sermon notes each Sunday and email and post them on the internet. I do this on about 4 or 5 Christian sites and been doing it for six years.

I may comment on a question asked on a topic once in a while, but I don’t live on the internet. Sooo….once a week I post my pastor’s sermon on line, email it and mail it out to two elderly aunts. Some people are bed ridden, only see church on TV. I do believe we are in the end times, the last days that Jesus told us about. And…the last days that John told us in Revelation. A lot of people will miss the boat if we don’t keep talking about Jesus and the free ticket he gives us to Heaven. Amen…Hallelujah!! …. Thank You Jesus!

Miz KJV Only

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Understanding how the Holy Spirit convicts us all in different ways

OTHERS MAY: YOU CANNOT

-by G. D. Watson (1845-1924).

If God has called you to be really like Jesus He will draw you into a life
of crucifixion and humility, and put upon you such demands of obedience,
that you will not be able to follow other people, or measure yourself by
other Christians, and in many ways He will seem to let other people do
things which He will not let you do.

Other Christians and ministers who seem very religious and useful, may
push themselves, pull wires, and work schemes to carry out their plans,
but you cannot do it, and if you attempt it, you will meet with such
failure and rebuke from the Lord as to make you sorely penitent.

Others may boast of themselves, of their work, of their successes, of
their writings, but the Holy Spirit will not allow you to do any such
thing, and if you begin it, He will lead you into some deep mortification 
that will make you despise yourself and all your good works.

Others may be allowed to succeed in making money, or may have a legacy
left to them, but it is likely God will keep you poor, because He wants
you to have something far better than gold, namely, a helpless dependence
upon Him, that He may have the privilege of supplying your needs day by
day out of an unseen treasury.

The Lord may let others be honored and put forward, and keep you hidden
in obscurity, because He wants to produce some choice fragrant fruit for
His coming glory, which can only be produced in the shade.  He may let
others be great, but keep you small.  He may let others do a work for Him 
and get the credit for it, but He will make you work and toil on without 
knowing how much you are doing; and then to make your work still more 
precious He may let others get credit for the work which you have done, 
and thus make YOUR REWARD TEN TIMES GREATER WHEN JESUS COMES.

The Holy Spirit will put a strict watch over you, with a jealous love, and
will rebuke you for little words and feelings or for wasting your time,
which other Christians never feel distressed over. So make up your mind
that God is an Infinitely Sovereign Being, and has a right to do as He
pleases with His own.  He may not explain to you a thousand things which
puzzle your reason in His dealings with you, but if you absolutely sell
yourself to be His love slave, He will wrap you up in Jealous Love, and
bestow upon you many blessings which come only to those who are in the
inner circle.

Settle it forever, then that you are to DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE HOLY
SPIRIT, and that He is to have the privilege of tying your tongue, or
chaining your hand, or closing your eyes, in ways that He does not seem
to use with others.  Now, when you are so possessed with the living God
that you are, in your secret heart, pleased and delighted over this 
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Justified in the Spirit

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This is a post I had several years ago here on Worthy and I am just sharing it again (I know it’s long…) –

God has promised to reward us in Hebrews 11:6 with understanding if we would “diligently” seek Him. Answering His call to personal holiness, picking up our crosses and following Him is how we seek Him. To those who obey this mandate Jesus said He would give to them “to know the mystery of the kingdom of God” (Mark 4:11). “To know” we are required to “diligently seek” if we are to have any hope to find, just as we must actively knock if the door of understanding is to be opened unto us. We must humbly acknowledge our ignorance and ask for understanding if we are to be enlightened by God’s Holy Spirit. That is because nothing is more blinding or hindering to our receiving truth than the “light” one proudly thinks himself to have, as such light most often prove to be strongholds that cause men to bunker down in defense of their own historic position or greed. But even when such are willing to consider that the part they know may not be completely correct, they must remember that all our seeking, knocking, and asking must be with an intention of true faithfulness if we are to receive anything from God. Even then, it is still only when “our hearts condemn us not” of sin that we can have true “confidence” toward God. It is in that place and condition that “whatsoever we ask, we receive of Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight” (I John 3:21, 22).

Justified in the Spirit

The revealing of God’s precious truths is often times progressive, as is witnessed to God’s names being revealed over time to humanity. Therefore we can see throughout history how so many others of God’s truths have been given one tidbit at a time is not rare. Holy men of old often prophesied of future events in fragments, “here a little” and then in another text, perhaps even another prophet, “there a little.” This method of enlightenment is in exact accordance with what the bible teaches us. I Corinthians 13:9 tells us straightforwardly that we all only “prophesy in part.” However, when we allow the Holy Spirit to help us properly assemble these parts by His illuminating touch, these fragments give valuable insight into otherwise veiled truths of scripture. Such is true for a verse which would otherwise be a puzzling piece of scripture –

For without controversy, great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, [God was] justified in the spirit, [God was] seen of angels, [God had] preached unto the Gentiles, [God was] believed on in the world, [God was] received up …read more

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Madness? Climatism the 'Greatest Global Delusion'

“If there’s a heat wave, a cold snap, stronger than usual hurricanes, droughts or floods — climatists say it’s all because of man-made climate change. They add that if we don’t curb our evil, carbon-emitting ways, the earth is doomed.

“But Goreham says not so fast. The environmental researcher and author of The Mad, Mad, Mad World of Climatism says that science points to natural factors — not human activity — as the cause of global warming.

“He calls climatism the greatest global delusion in history.”

Watch the embeddeded video here for what he has to say about it

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